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Gay Marriage and Gay Bankruptcy in New York

Monday, June 27th, 2011

First of all, while we’re typically never political here, and this may cost us some clients, let me just say that I’m absolutely delighted and proud that our legislators passed this landmark legislation in New York. I’ve had the honor and privilege of working with many gay and lesbian clients for both Chapter 7 Bankruptcies and Real Estate closings in New York, and I’m so very happy they finally have the long overdue opportunity to get married.

Since this past Friday, throngs of people have marched into my office and said “Daniel, now that we can legally get married, what in the world happens if we both file Bankruptcy?” That didnt happen. No one came by. I was in Newport, Rhode Island (great lobster roll). But they will. And the answer is, the field of Bankruptcy will likely get a bit more complicated now. They’ll be some questions in the coming months about the process, but heres what I imagine will happen. Before, if you were a gay couple that wanted to file Bankruptcy, you would simply list yourselves as roommates for purposes of the Means Test and whatever the partners contribution was to the household would be listed. Now, both gross incomes count. Shaking your head and asking yourself why you’re reading a Bankruptcy Blog on a Monday? Heres what I mean in simpler terms:

#1- Before Friday: Gay couple lives together. One partner wants to file Bankruptcy. Filers income counts towards the Means Test. We also then add in the monthly contribution and NOT the gross income of the other partner.
#2- Now (or after July 30th): Gay couples lives together and are married. One partner wants to file Bankruptcy. BOTH partners income now count towards the Means Test as opposed to simply (My partner contributes $700 for the rent and thats all the money Im putting down for the Means Test)

What implications does that have? Realistically it may mean that while you may have passed the means test before, you may not now if you do get married. KEEP THAT IN MIND if you’re deep in credit card debt. Same goes for assets, tax returns, etc. Its all going to be treated that same as if you were a heterosexual married couple for the purposes of Bankruptcy law. There will be tons of questions surrounding homes (if both partners purchased them prior) and cars. What I can tell you is that you should 100% speak to a Bankruptcy attorney prior to filing, given how much this will change things.

Again, congratulations to the thousands of New Yorkers that can now get married, and have wonderfully expensive weddings and homes with amazing decor (unless you’re planning to file for Bankruptcy, in which case lets keep the wedding simple.) We’re here to answer any questions you may have.

Owning a co-op and filing for Bankruptcy in New York

Wednesday, June 15th, 2011

My fans have been asking me to write this blog post for sometime. Practically begging me. For so long, I said no. I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t touch the subject. It was too painful. But Im finally ready…so here goes: Can you file for Bankruptcy in New York City and keep your Co-Op? As our good President would say: “Yes we can”.

The Co-Op, although in my opinion being the red headed step-child of the Real Estate world where “The Board” comes together to eat pizza and laugh at potential applicants, enjoys the same exemptions as houses and condo’s do under Bankruptcy law. Namely, we’re able to exempt up to $150,000.00 in equity in the property(the value of the shares). More importantly, if you’re married and both you and your spouses name are on the co-op shares and both of you file, you can exempt up to $300,000.00. What does that mean for you? Well, I’ve yet to see a co-op with more than $300,000 in equity in it. That’s not to say there arent any. Im sure there are many. But I can tell you that with the new laws, you now have the ability to keep your co-op and get rid of all of your credit card debt.

Theres another thing to note as well. So lets say that you own a co-op as a single person, and the Co-Op has over $150,000 in it. Lets say it’s got $180,000.00 You’re doomed, right?! No. Not at all. The thing is, you have to look at this from the angle of the Chapter 7 Trustee. The Trustee wants to sell the thing and disburse some money to creditors. But, like any other real estate deal, they’ve got to pay everyone thats in line for the money first. What that means is that if there are taxes to pay, like the ever present FLIP TAX and the Real Estate Broker, theres probably not going to be any money left at the end of the day, which means the Trustee may very well abandon the the Unit and give it back to you. Huge caveats here left and right in terms of the details and how to go about this, but the point is just because its over the equity exemption, doesn’t mean you lose your home.

But thats got to be done properly. Documents have to be sent to the Chapter 7 Trustee evidencing all of these figures. They may want to do an appraisal of their own. This is why I always say that if you have any type of assets, trying to do a Chapter 7 Bankruptcy by yourself is a mistake. Speak to someone, you know, who does this like every day maybe.

Settling with Creditors because you have tons of money to throw away. Like, tons…

Tuesday, June 7th, 2011

I’ve discussed this issue in the past 203493 times, but here it is again.  Nice client comes in.  Nice client sits down.  Nice client wants to talk “debt settlement.”  I sigh, knowing full well where this conversation will go.  I’ve filed hundreds of Bankruptcy cases in New York and I can tell you that many of the cases started along the same lines.  People want to settle with their creditors and pay them money that they don’t have because they don’t know what else to do.  So, client tells me she’s about $75,000 in debt or so.  Says she wants to settle.  Works full time but doesn’t make much and has a few kids she has to take care of.  Oh, and she has no money left at the end of the month.  What’s more?  The client has already paid close to 10K to her creditors to try and settle in the past year!!!  I don’t know what more I can say in situations like this other than to tell you all to take a step back before you cut a check to Rubin and Rothman, or Mel S. Harris and Associates or any of the other firms.  It doesn’t make financial sense.  Some concerns most people have and reasons why they plop down thousands to a never ending hole of creditors:

1. ” Filing Bankruptcy will ruin my credit for 10 years.  My neighbor told me.”  Your neighbor is a liar and is jealous of the view from your apartment and shes much too loud on the phone.  Bankruptcy will IMPROVE your credit almost overnight.  You heard me.  Improve.  As in get better.  If you’re tens of thousands in debt and missing payments, trust me, your check to settle Debt #1 out of 15 is not going to do much for your credit.  Bankruptcy, on the other hand, can greatly improve something called your Debt/Income ratio, which effectively comprises about 35-40% of your score.

2.  ”They’ll take my couch if I file Bankruptcy.  They’ll come in and go through my stuff”  Stop this.  Who will?  The US Marshalls?  They want your Levitz couch from 2002?  Big market out there for your coffee tables?  In all seriousness there are enough Bankruptcy exemptions as of January 2011, that we can confidently state that you likely wont have any issue with used furniture, etc.  It just doesn’t really happen.

3.  ”I own a home and Im scared”  If we file under the New York Exemptions, you’ve got $150,000 in equity you can protect in your home.  $300,000 if both you and your spouse are on the deed of the home and you’re both filing.  Next.

4. “It feels weird to file Bankruptcy.”  I know, it feels weird to get a Mud and Cucumber facial too, but you feel like a million bucks at the end (not that I know….seriously not that I know).  I know it feels weird, and you don’t want to do it, but you do it because you want to open up a bank account again and not be scared that someone is going to freeze it or garnish your wages.  You do it because you want to sleep at night and not worry about $30k in debt growing at 30% interest.  You did it because you want a fresh start.  You feel great when the process is over.  Don’t believe me?  Ask anyone who has filed (and had a good lawyer)

 

The lesson here is to stop throwing money you don’t have at creditors who aren’t going to go away.  If your house is on fire, are you going to get cups and fill them with water and throw them at the carpet?  Same thing here.  If you’re thousands in debt, settling with one creditor and hoping you’ll have enough to settle with the others is a losing proposition.  There are other, less expensive, faster, more efficient, painless ways to get through this mess.  Before you send in another check, make sure you speak with a Chapter 7 Bankruptcy lawyer.

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